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Re: rel="nofollow"

"Stacey" skrev i en meddelelse
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>
> Then you get other benefits which sometimes is better. The outgoing
> links can help with your ranking. So, I would leave them to be
> followed.

How can they help - do you mean if they see it and decide to link back
to me?

Mikkel

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

"Roy Schestowitz" skrev i en meddelelse
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>
> I think that unrealted links should result in no PR gain to the
> receiver; no
> penalty to the linking side...

Hm... yes thats a good point; however, I don't know how that could be
operationalised.

> If your site is large enough, I think you might be throwing away
> valuable
> time. You will be better off extending your content or adding
> sub-pages.

That's probably true. However, I had some outbound links to do with my
site's statistics and html validation on every page, which I could
easily neutralise in my ssi-file.

> Never should. Bear in mind that when using rel="nofollow", you prevent
> the
> linked site from knowing about your existence and perhaps giving you
> something in return.

That's true.

Mikkel

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

"Mikkel M?ldrup-Lakjer" wrote in message
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> "Stacey" skrev i en meddelelse
> news:f8mne.24592$Fv.6666@lakeread01...[color=green]
>>
>> Then you get other benefits which sometimes is better. The outgoing links
>> can help with your ranking. So, I would leave them to be followed.

>
> How can they help - do you mean if they see it and decide to link back to
> me?[/color]

Your site is about Spanish right? Those links should have link text(anchor
text) to the other pages with Spanish or something related to it. Link text
is weighed more than normal text. Your page will be more related or relevant
to Spanish also because it will be leading to more content.

Stacey

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

"Mikkel M?ldrup-Lakjer" wrote in message
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> That's probably true. However, I had some outbound links to do with my
> site's statistics and html validation on every page, which I could easily
> neutralise in my ssi-file.

Site stats and validation....just remove them. You don't need to put them in
you page. For what reason would you want to do it? One, your stats could get
indexed....then those spam referrers will get links. Unless you have the
rel=no follow...but it might be already indexed. Two, it is easy for someone
to see if your site validates or not...and your visitors are interested in
what your site is about not if it validates or not.

Stacey

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

"Stacey" skrev i en meddelelse
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>
> Your site is about Spanish right? Those links should have link
> text(anchor text) to the other pages with Spanish or something related
> to it. Link text is weighed more than normal text. Your page will be
> more related or relevant to Spanish also because it will be leading to
> more content.

Thank you that's helpful, I didn't know that. I only thought it would
add relevance to the sites I linked _to_.

Mikkel

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

"Mikkel M?ldrup-Lakjer" wrote in message
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> "Stacey" skrev i en meddelelse
> news:Ktone.25024$Fv.16992@lakeread01...[color=green]
>>
>> Your site is about Spanish right? Those links should have link
>> text(anchor text) to the other pages with Spanish or something related to
>> it. Link text is weighed more than normal text. Your page will be more
>> related or relevant to Spanish also because it will be leading to more
>> content.

>
> Thank you that's helpful, I didn't know that. I only thought it would add
> relevance to the sites I linked _to_.[/color]

Your are welcome and it helps the other sites also. 🙂 You both benefit for
relevance if the sites are related.

Stacey

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

Stacey wrote:

> "John Bokma" wrote in message
> news:Xns96688D39294E8castleamber@130.133.1.4...[color=green]
>> Stacey wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "John Bokma" wrote in message
>>> news:Xns966884C00CEA3castleamber@130.133.1.4...
>>>> Stacey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Never said it was a crime. Say you have a paper with 100 non
>>>>> related links going out.
>>>>
>>>> Uhm, that's not a paper, that's garbage.
>>>
>>> Of course it is...that is why you don't want to do that. Which is
>>> why I stated as you snipped it off. *Not good for your paper for
>>> someone wanting to read it or someone wanting to publish it.*

>>
>> That's normally the point of writing a paper. And since "here" we
>> talk about websites, publishing is implied.[/color]
>
> No s**t really?[/color]

Yes, so what's the point of having 100 (!) unrelated links on a webpage?

Maybe you should try to stick to the thread instead of making things up
(oh, wait, you can't).

Maybe you never wrote a paper in your entire life, but citations are
normally related to the paper.

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

"John Bokma" wrote in message
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> Yes, so what's the point of having 100 (!) unrelated links on a webpage?

I don't know...what is the point? Oh, but did I say one should have
that...oh wait that is John twisting things again!

> Maybe you should try to stick to the thread instead of making things up
> (oh, wait, you can't).

John, I feel sorry for you. You are in the manic behavior huh?
http://www.mentalhealth.com/book/p40-ma01.html

You need to stop twisting what people are saying! (oh wait you can't, that
is part of your behavior!)

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:54:11 +0200, "Mikkel M?ldrup-Lakjer"
wrote:

>"Stacey" skrev i en meddelelse
>news:f8mne.24592$Fv.6666@lakeread01...[color=green]
>>
>> Then you get other benefits which sometimes is better. The outgoing
>> links can help with your ranking. So, I would leave them to be
>> followed.

>
>How can they help - do you mean if they see it and decide to link back
>to me?
>
>Mikkel[/color]

Like I said, they get you credit for being a site people can go to to
find links to associated sites.

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 22:07:13 +0200, "Mikkel M?ldrup-Lakjer"
wrote:

>"Stacey" skrev i en meddelelse
>news:Ktone.25024$Fv.16992@lakeread01...[color=green]
>>
>> Your site is about Spanish right? Those links should have link
>> text(anchor text) to the other pages with Spanish or something related
>> to it. Link text is weighed more than normal text. Your page will be
>> more related or relevant to Spanish also because it will be leading to
>> more content.

>
>Thank you that's helpful, I didn't know that. I only thought it would
>add relevance to the sites I linked _to_.
>
>Mikkel[/color]

No, you also get credit for doing the linking.

BB

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

"Big Bill" skrev i en meddelelse
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> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:54:11 +0200, "Mikkel M?ldrup-Lakjer"
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"Stacey" skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:f8mne.24592$Fv.6666@lakeread01...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Then you get other benefits which sometimes is better. The outgoing
>>> links can help with your ranking. So, I would leave them to be
>>> followed.

>>
>>How can they help - do you mean if they see it and decide to link back
>>to me?
>>
>>Mikkel[/color]
>
> Like I said, they get you credit for being a site people can go to to
> find links to associated sites.[/color]

Well, that's a good thing.

Good if Google actually evaluates if the links seem relevant.

Mikkel

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

Stacey wrote:

> "John Bokma" wrote in message
> news:Xns96689F13010A5castleamber@130.133.1.4...
>
>
>
>[color=green]
>> Yes, so what's the point of having 100 (!) unrelated links on a
>> webpage?

>
> I don't know...what is the point? Oh, but did I say one should have
> that...[/color]

You were again stating the obvious. You either do that, or make things up.

> John, I feel sorry for you. You are in the manic behavior huh?

You have no clue about what that is.

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 23:14:01 +0200, "Mikkel M?ldrup-Lakjer"
wrote:

>"Big Bill" skrev i en meddelelse
>news:qj8s919luu3irh4a55gp17ufhip3a3vmee@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:54:11 +0200, "Mikkel M?ldrup-Lakjer"
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>"Stacey" skrev i en meddelelse
>>>news:f8mne.24592$Fv.6666@lakeread01...
>>>>
>>>> Then you get other benefits which sometimes is better. The outgoing
>>>> links can help with your ranking. So, I would leave them to be
>>>> followed.
>>>
>>>How can they help - do you mean if they see it and decide to link back
>>>to me?
>>>
>>>Mikkel

>>
>> Like I said, they get you credit for being a site people can go to to
>> find links to associated sites.[/color]
>
>Well, that's a good thing.
>
>Good if Google actually evaluates if the links seem relevant.
>
>Mikkel[/color]

Google has to evaluate pretty much everything it can get its hands on
otherwise it would have no way of distinguishing between sites.

BB

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

"John Bokma" wrote in message
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> Stacey wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "John Bokma" wrote in message
>> news:Xns96689F13010A5castleamber@130.133.1.4...
>>
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Yes, so what's the point of having 100 (!) unrelated links on a
>>> webpage?

>>
>> I don't know...what is the point? Oh, but did I say one should have
>> that...[/color]
>
> You were again stating the obvious.[/color]

And you were again not following what was said and twisting.

Hmm, let's look back at what I said. The OP asked *"I just recently learned
about how outbound links can affect the total PR of a site."*

I said:
*"Yeah, not that much though. It all depends how much you have going out."*

Roy said:
*"I never knew linking was a 'crime'. Pages without links are poorer to the
reader because they are a narrow. Imagine yourself a paper without
citations."*

Hmm, let's see he was referring to a web page like a paper. And stating he
didn't know linking was a crime.

So, I said in reference to a paper also(Which I have wrote some papers BTW,
and wrote some BOI's(Branch Operating Instruction) for the USAF), and that I
didn't say linking was a crime.
*"Never said it was a crime. Say you have a paper with 100 non related links
going out. Not good for your paper for someone wanting to read it or someone
wanting to publish it."
"So, it depends on how much you have going out!"*

Then you have to come and twist things around! A website is not always
indexed because of certain things. It could be to many links going to bad
areas etc. Even a paper with loads of non related c**p in it isn't worth
reading or publishing.(Although, I just seen a paper today with 45lb
toothpick woman marrying a 450 man. The photo was fixed! LOL).

It depends on how many links are on pages etc. , and there are sites with
loads of non relevant crappy links that aren't going anywhere!

And that is not obvious to the OP or he wouldn't have been asking period!

Stacey

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Posted : 02/06/2005 5:01 am
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Re: rel="nofollow"

Stacey wrote:

"
> Never said it was a crime. Say you have a paper with 100 non related
> links going out.

Uhm, that's not a paper, that's garbage.
"

Is this a true statement? Yes. Did you miss the smiley? Yes.

Have a nice day Stacey,

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