ridiculous search results

Re: ridiculous search results

"RocketMan" wrote in message news:BEBA7F6E.28FAD%rm@rm.com...
> in article Xns966174C156B53castleamber@130.133.1.4, John Bokma at
> [email]john@castleamber.com[/email] wrote on 05/25/2005 9:28 AM:
>
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>> Nop, however, I prefer
>
>
> What you prefer is irrelevant.[/color]

Seems, like John is not gaining to many friends! LOL!!!!

Re: ridiculous search results

RocketMan wrote:

> in article Xns966174C156B53castleamber@130.133.1.4, John Bokma at
> [email]john@castleamber.com[/email] wrote on 05/25/2005 9:28 AM:
>[color=green]
>> Nop, however, I prefer
>
> What you prefer is irrelevant.[/color]

You will find out one day that quite a lot of people agree with: question
in the group = answer in the group.

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Re: ridiculous search results

"John Bokma" wrote in message
news:Xns9662C51738C1castleamber@130.133.1.4...
> RocketMan wrote:

> You will find out one day that quite a lot of people agree with: question
> in the group = answer in the group.

Thinking for others John? ;)) Or just telling what they should do? ;P Got
statistics to prove it? ;D ...sorry, couldn't resist 😀

Re: ridiculous search results

W?rm wrote:

>
> "John Bokma" wrote in message
> news:Xns9662C51738C1castleamber@130.133.1.4...[color=green]
>> RocketMan wrote:
>
>
>
>> You will find out one day that quite a lot of people agree with:
>> question in the group = answer in the group.
>
> Thinking for others John? ;)) Or just telling what they should do? ;P
> Got statistics to prove it? ;D ...sorry, couldn't resist :D[/color]

It's how Usenet works. Imagine that each question results in an email send
to the OP, with offers for help. Anyway, read replies to some of the
entries at

But you probably already knew this 😉

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Re: ridiculous search results

"John Bokma" wrote in message
news:Xns966247CF8B73Bcastleamber@130.133.1.4...

> It's how Usenet works. Imagine that each question results in an email send
> to the OP, with offers for help. Anyway, read replies to some of the
> entries at
>
>
>
> But you probably already knew this 😉

yup, just could not resist ;P

Re: ridiculous search results

davidof wrote:

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> Need I even start a discussion about comment spam, which is a result of
>> that nasty algorithm? Try starting your day, every single day, erasing
>> P0ker and V!agra comments from your pages.
>
> are you not running comment filtering software yet?[/color]

I do. I hold spam in a moderation queue, or else I might have some false
positives (genuine comments intercepted). Also see my recent reply to
Stacey, which explains about 'noise' in stats.

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Re: ridiculous search results

Stacey wrote:

> I think you missed the point also. You didn't read all of the thread.
> There is *content* within that slide show. Google is not indexing nothing.
> The page is *relevant* to the search.

That piece of information only came later on in that discussion, I suspect.
I was under the impression that the page was void.
[color=green]
>>Need I even start a discussion about comment spam, which is a result of
>>that
>>nasty algorithm? Try starting your day, every single day, erasing P0ker
>>and V!agra comments from your pages.
>
> Don't allow people to post their URL's or make comments. It is the people
> who comment spam or allow them to do so not the SE's fault.:-)[/color]

I know, I know. *smile* I guess that SE's and interactive sites just can't
sit side by side.
[color=green]
>>...and then come Google et al. with a 'bugfix', telling everybody to
>>change links in pages to include rel="nofollow". I say: fix your b****y
>>methods. Don't tell us how to write our sites.
>
> Well, there could be a fix. Do not index any comments. Sure that would
> work. Why would you think that following links is a bug it isn't? Telling
> you how to make you site would be just don't allow people to comment.:-)[/color]

The steps I can take will not prevent evil, which is uninvited traffic and
spam comment attempts. It is the /majority/ of sites that attracts this
form of bots. The bots couldn't care less what gets indexed and what
doesn't. In fact, they can hit well-protected sites just for spite.

What upsets me, for example, is that half of my referrer URL's is spam.
Also, I might get hundreds of unique IP's on my site, all of which are
spammers' proxies. It adds a lot of 'noise' and makes me (and many others)
bitter.

Roy

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Re: ridiculous search results

"Roy Schestowitz" wrote in message
news:d74oqs$lni$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk...
> Stacey wrote:

> What upsets me, for example, is that half of my referrer URL's is spam.
> Also, I might get hundreds of unique IP's on my site, all of which are
> spammers' proxies. It adds a lot of 'noise' and makes me (and many others)
> bitter.

I know it happens sometimes. They think if they are in your logs they will
get a chance to have that as a link. Spam is a uphill battle!!!

Stacey

Re: Links ph calculations

On Wed, 25 May 2005 00:49:21 +0200, Fritz M wrote:

> Well, let's see how highly this page ranks after it gets crawled.

Seems you have modified original version?

http://www.geometry.net/detail/basic_a/acids_&_bases_page_no_2.html

Irritating thing is that - generally speaking - all I can see on the
page you prepared seems to be in conformance with the same rules I have
learnt and used on my page. Yet the results are unsatisfactory.
Perhaps I am a little bit impatient...

The most important difference I can see is use of dashes and underscores
- Aaron Wall wrote that it is not a thing to die for. I plan to change
these, but not yet, as not all changes I did about a week ago has been
crawled yet. OTOH I am working on back links (with good anchor texts)
so even if anything changes I will not know if it is due to the html or
to backlinks.

Best,
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BATE - Base Acid Titration and Equilibria
program for pH calculations
CASC - Concentration and Solution Calculator
program for solution preparation and concentration conversions

Re: ridiculous search results

Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> What upsets me, for example, is that half of my referrer URL's is spam.
> Also, I might get hundreds of unique IP's on my site, all of which are
> spammers' proxies. It adds a lot of 'noise' and makes me (and many others)
> bitter.

Take action Roy: http://www.abcseo.com/papers/referrer-spam.htm

Re: ridiculous search results

Borek wrote:[color=green]
>> Does Google give lower weight to links in forums (even those that don't
>> use the nofollow convention) because of comment spam?[/color]

Some people say Google gives no weight to links in forums but even if
they do the weighting will be very low. A forum generally has threads
that are long - so many outbound links splitting what meagre pagerank a
thread may attract. Forums are also very dynamic - with shifting sands
of interlinking, older posts generally get linked way off the main page
so even if the forum itself has PR6 or 7 your outbound link will see
little of that.

I wouldn't waste too much time with forums

Re: ridiculous search results

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:55:57 +0200, davidof
wrote:

> Some people say Google gives no weight to links in forums but even if
> they do the weighting will be very low. A forum generally has threads
> that are long - so many outbound links splitting what meagre pagerank a
> thread may attract. Forums are also very dynamic - with shifting sands
> of interlinking, older posts generally get linked way off the main page
> so even if the forum itself has PR6 or 7 your outbound link will see
> little of that.

> I wouldn't waste too much time with forums

Well, it is not only getting PR in this case - these are forums with
the people that are my potential customers. Or at least I hope they are 😉

Best,
Borek
--
http://www.chembuddy.com - chemical calculators for labs and education
BATE - Base Acid Titration and Equilibria
program for pH calculations
CASC - Concentration and Solution Calculator
program for solution preparation and concentration conversions

Re: ridiculous search results

Borek wrote:

>
> Well, it is not only getting PR in this case - these are forums with
> the people that are my potential customers. Or at least I hope they are 😉

Sorry Borek, no harm in contributing to forums of course, it can be
valuable for feedback about your product/website too. What I meant is
don't hope that IBL will help too much in the Google PR process but if
you want to help people on forums by all means.

Re: ridiculous search results

On Tue, 24 May 2005 10:46:47 +0200, Borek
wrote:

> You asked? Sorry, weird things happen to my news feed. I don't see
> any posts from John Bokma, I know about his existence only thanks

LOL. I just get an answer from my provider. Some of the posts were
filtered from the group. One of the phrases that spam filter was
acting on is "our site". John has "your site" in signature 🙂

I wonder if this post will make its way through 🙂

Best,
Borek
--
http://www.chembuddy.com - chemical calculators for labs and education
BATE - Base Acid Titration and Equilibria
program for pH calculations
CASC - Concentration and Solution Calculator
program for solution preparation and concentration conversions

Re: ridiculous search results

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:05:10 +0200, Borek
wrote:

> LOL. I just get an answer from my provider. Some of the posts were
> filtered from the group. One of the phrases that spam filter was
> acting on is "our site". John has "your site" in signature 🙂

Stacey: I have found your post on google (about your mail sent
back as spam) and I am trying to do something about the problem
with my host service. Sorry about the trouble.

Best,
Borek
--
http://www.chembuddy.com - chemical calculators for labs and education
BATE - Base Acid Titration and Equilibria
program for pH calculations
CASC - Concentration and Solution Calculator
program for solution preparation and concentration conversions